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		<title>Comment on AcBoWriMo: Academic Book Writing Month by Glorious Generalist: AcBoWriMo: Academic Book Writing Month &#124; International Literacy Management &#124; Scoop.it</title>
		<link>http://www.gloriousgeneralist.com/2011/11/acbowrimo-academic-book-writing-month/comment-page-1/#comment-1284</link>
		<dc:creator>Glorious Generalist: AcBoWriMo: Academic Book Writing Month &#124; International Literacy Management &#124; Scoop.it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 14:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Glorious Generalist: AcBoWriMo: Academic Book Writing Month           Lo and behold, ProfHacker posted about Charlotte Frost&#039;s idea to do AcBoWriMo, where you write an academic book in a month&#8211;with, of course, the caveat that academic writing is far different than novel writing.     Source: www.gloriousgeneralist.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Glorious Generalist: AcBoWriMo: Academic Book Writing Month           Lo and behold, ProfHacker posted about Charlotte Frost&#039;s idea to do AcBoWriMo, where you write an academic book in a month&ndash;with, of course, the caveat that academic writing is far different than novel writing.     Source: <a href="http://www.gloriousgeneralist.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gloriousgeneralist.com</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on AcBoWriMo: Academic Book Writing Month by Bill Dueber</title>
		<link>http://www.gloriousgeneralist.com/2011/11/acbowrimo-academic-book-writing-month/comment-page-1/#comment-1274</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Dueber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While there&#039;s no way in hell I&#039;ll be able to do any writing, consider me signed up for AcBoEdMo, Academic Book-editing month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While there&#8217;s no way in hell I&#8217;ll be able to do any writing, consider me signed up for AcBoEdMo, Academic Book-editing month.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Social Networking the Catalog: LITA National Forum 2011 Presentation by Joel R.</title>
		<link>http://www.gloriousgeneralist.com/2011/10/social-networking-the-catalog-lita-national-forum-2011-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-1114</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you&#039;re nuts at all. I think you have a really good idea for a library model that may very well survive the impending ebooks revolution that&#039;s going to force libraries to change drastically or disappear.

P.S. You had my vote. :) Congratulations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re nuts at all. I think you have a really good idea for a library model that may very well survive the impending ebooks revolution that&#8217;s going to force libraries to change drastically or disappear.</p>
<p>P.S. You had my vote. <img src='http://www.gloriousgeneralist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Congratulations!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quinoa and Lentils by Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 01:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might, but to me it would be more of a texture problem than a taste problem. Though since red quinoa has a nuttier flavor it might actually be a good flavor--but in that case I would up the raisins. 

My other thought is that a few chopped up cherry tomatoes on top might help the prettiness. But it turned out all the cherry tomatoes we had were gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might, but to me it would be more of a texture problem than a taste problem. Though since red quinoa has a nuttier flavor it might actually be a good flavor&#8211;but in that case I would up the raisins. </p>
<p>My other thought is that a few chopped up cherry tomatoes on top might help the prettiness. But it turned out all the cherry tomatoes we had were gone.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quinoa and Lentils by Steven V. Kaszynski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven V. Kaszynski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 01:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last week, I had to make red beans and rice with green bell peppers. Talk about not pretty. I wonder if the red quinoa would make this recipe significantly prettier without botching the flavor. Have I gone bananas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week, I had to make red beans and rice with green bell peppers. Talk about not pretty. I wonder if the red quinoa would make this recipe significantly prettier without botching the flavor. Have I gone bananas?</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Fair Grades&#8221; by Mackenzie</title>
		<link>http://www.gloriousgeneralist.com/2011/09/fair-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-1047</link>
		<dc:creator>Mackenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I probably have a lot to say on this subject since I&#039;m both a homeschooler and a DU grad. Like you, grades were pretty irrelevant for me until I finished high school since they were mostly made up. When I first started college, good grades were proof to me that I could function in a traditional school setting. I&#039;ve also since realized that good grades were a mark of approval by someone in position of authority, so I sought them out since I didn&#039;t (and arguably still don&#039;t) know how to get the approval of my peers. I consider myself pretty good at following the rules, so for most classes I probably got good grades because I figured out what would get me that grade and did it, not because I worked really hard (as school was easier for me than others).  I tended to have more respect for &quot;hard graders&quot; because they didn&#039;t let me play that game. I would have liked to hear Sister Marci&#039;s contribution to your discussion for instance. :) 

Actually, when thinking about this yesterday, I was hard on myself for being one of those students who goes through the motions, but after further consideration, I am sure I would still show up (and did) to classes that did not grade on attendance at all because it was the Right Thing To Do. And I am sure I learned all the material, but I&#039;m harder on myself for not engaging with the material beyond what was necessary to write the paper. I have to be careful with this because the Boyfriend definitely values knowing the material over getting the best grades (why model 3 doesn&#039;t always work). He&#039;ll lose points for not proofreading because he was too busy reading supplementary material for example. But ever the pragmatic, I&#039;m the one worrying about the proper citation format. 

I think your having good classes and professors makes a huge difference as well. I&#039;m not going to put effort into a class when I feel like the professor is not also putting effort into it. If a professor talks at me for three hours, drops assignments randomly, and is uninformed, I&#039;m going to do little more than is necessary. This is part of the reason I was frustrated by library school; this is where I&#039;m supposed to care the most, but not having that consistent/inspiring/logical professor turned me off of the material. I would also say that coming from being graded on the quality of your writing in an English major, to a program that did not care so much was a difficult adjustment. I spent a lot of time feeling like I didn&#039;t deserve the A I got because I knew I could have done better. 

The final reason I cared about grades was that for me, grades = money. Close to half my tuition was paid for solely through merit-based aid. If you get respectable but average grades, I could see them being a lot more easily dismissed. But my As turned out to be worth close to $50k. 

I may have wandered a bit from your original post, but it&#039;s something I think about a lot despite having graduated. I agree with you that graded attendance isn&#039;t going make a student care, but I can also see it from the professor&#039;s pov, as a way to get students to show up, since not everyone has homeschooler mentality. :) Not that I know anything about Wooster, but I would guess that there were a higher percentage of people who valued their education enough to show up a little more than at DU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I probably have a lot to say on this subject since I&#8217;m both a homeschooler and a DU grad. Like you, grades were pretty irrelevant for me until I finished high school since they were mostly made up. When I first started college, good grades were proof to me that I could function in a traditional school setting. I&#8217;ve also since realized that good grades were a mark of approval by someone in position of authority, so I sought them out since I didn&#8217;t (and arguably still don&#8217;t) know how to get the approval of my peers. I consider myself pretty good at following the rules, so for most classes I probably got good grades because I figured out what would get me that grade and did it, not because I worked really hard (as school was easier for me than others).  I tended to have more respect for &#8220;hard graders&#8221; because they didn&#8217;t let me play that game. I would have liked to hear Sister Marci&#8217;s contribution to your discussion for instance. <img src='http://www.gloriousgeneralist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Actually, when thinking about this yesterday, I was hard on myself for being one of those students who goes through the motions, but after further consideration, I am sure I would still show up (and did) to classes that did not grade on attendance at all because it was the Right Thing To Do. And I am sure I learned all the material, but I&#8217;m harder on myself for not engaging with the material beyond what was necessary to write the paper. I have to be careful with this because the Boyfriend definitely values knowing the material over getting the best grades (why model 3 doesn&#8217;t always work). He&#8217;ll lose points for not proofreading because he was too busy reading supplementary material for example. But ever the pragmatic, I&#8217;m the one worrying about the proper citation format. </p>
<p>I think your having good classes and professors makes a huge difference as well. I&#8217;m not going to put effort into a class when I feel like the professor is not also putting effort into it. If a professor talks at me for three hours, drops assignments randomly, and is uninformed, I&#8217;m going to do little more than is necessary. This is part of the reason I was frustrated by library school; this is where I&#8217;m supposed to care the most, but not having that consistent/inspiring/logical professor turned me off of the material. I would also say that coming from being graded on the quality of your writing in an English major, to a program that did not care so much was a difficult adjustment. I spent a lot of time feeling like I didn&#8217;t deserve the A I got because I knew I could have done better. </p>
<p>The final reason I cared about grades was that for me, grades = money. Close to half my tuition was paid for solely through merit-based aid. If you get respectable but average grades, I could see them being a lot more easily dismissed. But my As turned out to be worth close to $50k. </p>
<p>I may have wandered a bit from your original post, but it&#8217;s something I think about a lot despite having graduated. I agree with you that graded attendance isn&#8217;t going make a student care, but I can also see it from the professor&#8217;s pov, as a way to get students to show up, since not everyone has homeschooler mentality. <img src='http://www.gloriousgeneralist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Not that I know anything about Wooster, but I would guess that there were a higher percentage of people who valued their education enough to show up a little more than at DU.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Fair Grades&#8221; by Bill Dueber</title>
		<link>http://www.gloriousgeneralist.com/2011/09/fair-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-1046</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Dueber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[A small rant]

The first thing to understand about the educational system in the US (and most other places) is that the system doesn&#039;t give a crap whether or not people learn the material. There are certainly individuals who care, and there are students who care, but fundamentally schools are not optimized for learning.

They&#039;re optimized for sorting.

Structurally, our educational system is designed to separate management from line-workers. We don&#039;t care if students learn, say, US History. We care how much (and how well) they can learn US History in a fixed amount of time compared to their peers. The end-product -- the grades -- are less a reflection of how well students have  mastered the material than they are a simple ranking of how smart (for one narrow but very, very useful definition of &quot;smart&quot;) the students are compared to each other. 

Once upon a time, we used those rankings to steer students down different educational and vocational paths. Some went to college. Some to the factory. 

I think it&#039;s important to not dismiss the utility of the system when viewed in its temporal and cultural context. It was shitty for a lot of the students, but useful to the country. 

Times, of course, have changed. Charlie Reigeluth (https://profile.educ.indiana.edu/reigelut) has done half a lifetime of work exploring some of these issues (as policy and as educational challenges), and talks eloquently (and, occasionally, at length :-) about the need to move toward a mode of schooling that is more appropriate for the modern age.

Essentially, what we do currently is fix time-on-task and allow learning to fluctuate. There&#039;s a 15-week semester, and students learn whatever they can in that time. If we were serious about learning, we&#039;d hold mastery of the material constant (e.g., you have to learn it) and provide each student with as much or as little time as she needs to master it. 

In the US we take this approach with only one thing: reading. Students of all ability levels are taught and tutored and cajoled and worked with until they can read. If we&#039;re serious about learning, we need to demand learning, no matter how long or how many resources it takes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[A small rant]</p>
<p>The first thing to understand about the educational system in the US (and most other places) is that the system doesn&#8217;t give a crap whether or not people learn the material. There are certainly individuals who care, and there are students who care, but fundamentally schools are not optimized for learning.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re optimized for sorting.</p>
<p>Structurally, our educational system is designed to separate management from line-workers. We don&#8217;t care if students learn, say, US History. We care how much (and how well) they can learn US History in a fixed amount of time compared to their peers. The end-product &#8212; the grades &#8212; are less a reflection of how well students have  mastered the material than they are a simple ranking of how smart (for one narrow but very, very useful definition of &#8220;smart&#8221;) the students are compared to each other. </p>
<p>Once upon a time, we used those rankings to steer students down different educational and vocational paths. Some went to college. Some to the factory. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s important to not dismiss the utility of the system when viewed in its temporal and cultural context. It was shitty for a lot of the students, but useful to the country. </p>
<p>Times, of course, have changed. Charlie Reigeluth (<a href="https://profile.educ.indiana.edu/reigelut" rel="nofollow">https://profile.educ.indiana.edu/reigelut</a>) has done half a lifetime of work exploring some of these issues (as policy and as educational challenges), and talks eloquently (and, occasionally, at length <img src='http://www.gloriousgeneralist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  about the need to move toward a mode of schooling that is more appropriate for the modern age.</p>
<p>Essentially, what we do currently is fix time-on-task and allow learning to fluctuate. There&#8217;s a 15-week semester, and students learn whatever they can in that time. If we were serious about learning, we&#8217;d hold mastery of the material constant (e.g., you have to learn it) and provide each student with as much or as little time as she needs to master it. </p>
<p>In the US we take this approach with only one thing: reading. Students of all ability levels are taught and tutored and cajoled and worked with until they can read. If we&#8217;re serious about learning, we need to demand learning, no matter how long or how many resources it takes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Glorious Generalist: &#8220;Fair Grades&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glorious Generalist: &#8220;Fair Grades&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] find this a fascinating topic because I personally have an unusual experience with grades. As you may know, I didn&#8217;t go to a school between the ages of 9 and 18, though I certainly got plenty of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] find this a fascinating topic because I personally have an unusual experience with grades. As you may know, I didn&#8217;t go to a school between the ages of 9 and 18, though I certainly got plenty of [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Metadata Meetups Initiative by Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.gloriousgeneralist.com/2011/03/metadata-meetups-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really great idea. Keep me posted when the next metadata meetup goes down. I want in, and would love to talk about (among other things) digital collections and implementing Omeka.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really great idea. Keep me posted when the next metadata meetup goes down. I want in, and would love to talk about (among other things) digital collections and implementing Omeka.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Not Neglecting Your Free Kittens by Glorious Generalist: On Not Neglecting Your Free Kittens &#124; my test site</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glorious Generalist: On Not Neglecting Your Free Kittens &#124; my test site</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 05:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more here: Glorious Generalist: On Not Neglecting Your Free Kittens      Posted in Uncategorized &#124; Tags: app-store, breakout-session, but-after, code4, drupal, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more here: Glorious Generalist: On Not Neglecting Your Free Kittens      Posted in Uncategorized | Tags: app-store, breakout-session, but-after, code4, drupal, [...]</p>
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